#161. Embodying Love Consciousness with Dr Teri Baydar

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Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  00:00

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Dr. Teri Baydar  06:04

I’m wonderful. Thank you very happy to be here.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  06:07

Thank you. And thank you for being here. I really appreciate you taking the time to be on the show. Now, I read through your bio EDI is like a Bible, it is that you have done so much. I didn’t even know how to condense this down. So I’m going to try and be as brief as possible and hope that I tick the most important things. So you are a renowned leadership coach, and CEO whisperer, a groundbreaking thinker and expert in the field of consciousness, personal growth, and the underlying forces that shape our world. You are the CEO of White Lily individual development, and the author of the recently published book flip your switch, which is User’s Guide to a whole new mind. And this is a guiding this is a guide to understanding ourselves and the world around us. Well, that’s, I know, there’s way more that you do as Now, interestingly enough, you have an MBA with a crude training in authentic leadership, managing complexity and behavioural economics. And you have devoted years to behavioural research and leadership development. Yes, you also have a PhD. Is it in divinity? No, no.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  07:38

I have a doctorate, which is not a PhD. So my I’m actually Reverend Dr. Well,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  07:44

because I did see there that there was in your bio that you were a reverend as well. Yes. Wow. Okay. So much going on with you. Tell us about your story. How did all this start? We started the beginning.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  08:02

How far back do you want me to go?

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  08:05

Well, let’s just hit all that those important moments that took you to this place you’re at now.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  08:11

All right. Full disclosure. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yes. We

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  08:16

love full disclosure. All right.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  08:18

So I was born clairvoyant. And when I was 12, I started to figure out that not everybody is yes. Like, how would I

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  08:31

know? Exactly, exactly? No. And what was some of the things that were happening to you? Well,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  08:37

I mean, see if things that were supposedly not there, they were not there and other people’s perception, but they were for me, I still get a lot of sounds within sounds. And so audio, visual taste, sometimes smell. So lots of things going on precog I get a lot of precog. That has always been and so like, there was a pivotal point when I was about 12. I was hanging out with other kids, you know, and they were laughing and talking about dreams and how weird they are. And I said, they’re not really weird. They just show you what’s going to happen before it happens. And with that, I was like, I know that I mean, they were like, well, like no, that’s not it. You’re the one that’s weird. What like what what are you talking about? So that was a pivotal point where I had to sort of like learn to shut my mouth and hide, to cope. To fit in. Yeah, it’s that fitting in versus belonging, which is in the book

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  09:42

too. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And then what happened? Like how did you embark on this?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  09:49

So I was good in academia, I really plunged into academia. I did four years of high school in three years, became an exchange student went to Paris on my own when I was 16. Lean into a French High School, finished in the French high school system and then went on to work live study in France for 18 years, then a couple of years in London. But while I was in France, when I was 21, another pivotal point, which is interesting to 112, I never thought about that, I started working with what we call an unacknowledged Special Access Project, which is behind the lines work for the French government. So these are think tanks. And this was a research institute Think Tank working on the function of the unconscious mind. And they were happy to get people like me with a different sensory perception. And, you know, all of these, you know, whether it’s clairvoyance, precog, all of this going on, to do their experience to delve into the unconscious mind a suggestive city. Also, they worked a lot on, on suggestion because they were trying to do some social engineering on the French population and needed to know what might or might not work and slip in between below the liminal line of what we are conscious of. Well,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  11:19

that’s incredible. So when did she go on to study all the rest of the things that you’ve studied? So

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  11:26

in my early 30s, MBA and so you

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  11:31

did the work with the government first and then went into the academia? Then I want to do, yeah, how was the experience working for the French government behind the scenes there?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  11:42

It wasn’t for the French government directly, because these are things that were not they were unacknowledged meaning. I don’t know where the funding came from. But there was nothing that said that we existed per se, we were just a think tank, doing all of these experiments, but the people doing the experiments were highly linked to the government. Okay, so different individuals would ask them, Well, how do we do this? And what if we want to get French people to make more babies, and we want the Muslim immigrants to make less babies. So that was a real thing. Oh.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  12:20

Okay. So it was never acknowledged that it was a governmental? No, I don’t know, acknowledge and acknowledge. But clearly, reading between the lines and the people that were involved, there was some link to the government. Oh,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  12:35

yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, my gosh, kind of like, it’s like being an experimental lab for Pharma. But Pharma is not linked to the farmer. But whatever we can get out of the lab, we’re gonna put it into pharma, you know, and the pharma companies are gonna fight for it, if anything good comes out of it.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  12:56

And did anything good come out of it? Do you know what the results of that experiment work?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  13:02

That’s a really good question. I mean, after so I was there for seven years. So I became project manager. So one of the things we have to understand about this, and then I came to understand, like how to map all of this out, right? Because seven years is a long time. Yes. And so this is where I figured out patch reprogramming that I talked about in the book, which we can use for ourselves rather than on other people. And I also figured out two forms of consciousness and energy. And then went back to your question, Did anything come out of it? Most of what came out of it was, interestingly, difficult to apply. And I mean, that these, these things were going on at Stanford University and lots of other places as well. It wasn’t anything. It’s really it wasn’t or isn’t anything special. It’s happening all the time right now. But what’s interesting there is that there’s kind of a consensus that for those in the know that if you want to, for example, do remote viewing, the accuracy so remote viewing is when you display your consciousness to some of us, like let’s say, I go into a go into your home here, but I’ll go into your house and figure out what I’ll go and then you’ll ask me questions, and I’ll describe the room to go. I’ve never been there. And that’s remote viewing. So you view remotely with your consciousness, and then you bring back information used in the military all the time for decades.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  14:39

Hold on a second. Can I just get this in my head right now? So you’re saying that remote viewing is. Let’s say that I’m the one doing the viewing that I’m sitting here, but I can view your whole place without even being there. Yeah, That’s one way I can visualise. So what without ever seeing it? Yeah. Can people do that?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  15:08

Most people can, yes, it’s absolutely available to probably 90% 85 90% of the public can do this.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  15:17

Oh my gosh. So you can do that you can do just about anything, you can view anything, you’re

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  15:24

gonna do lots of things. That’s the that’s the point of my of me coming out and saying, flip your switch become more of who you are, just discover what I talked about in part three of the book, which is the Daneman.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  15:36

So what is the daemon so

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  15:39

the daemon is the Greek term for what we would call higher self in normal language. And it’s a part of who we are. That allows us to do things like remote viewing, be precog hear sounds within sounds know what’s going to happen before it happens. Or other elevated things. It’s a place of knowing, and the daemon is your connection to the place of knowing and we all have one. It squelched in our modern societies. It is not developed, but we can develop it, it’s available to everyone because it’s already in us. Okay,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  16:27

so we’re born with this. Yeah, everybody has one. Okay. Now, before we lead into all of this, with behaviours, let’s just talk about and we can build up to this, this whole concept that you’re talking about. So when it comes to say, out behaviours? What are the things that shape and influence our behaviours? And do these behaviours happen at the level of our brain or our mind?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  17:01

Well, first off, let’s, let’s clarify. Brain and Mind Your brain is an organ. Okay, yeah, it’s like the hard drive of your computer. Your mind is the software. That is information consciousness, your mind is information consciousness, it is fluid. Think of also like radio waves are information consciousness. But they can go from one radio pillar to another, like the cross, right? Like the wireless, like, all the wireless stuff we got going here, right? The Bluetooth. So if you think about something like remote viewing, it’s like Bluetooth thing into somebody else’s house.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  17:51

Okay. This is incredible stuff.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  17:59

Just the flooding part, we haven’t gotten to the deep part. Okay, so that’s fun stuff. Okay. Yes. So we’re differentiating the brain, the mind. And then we want to know, like there are, there’s a group mind and the group line. And there’s lots of little like, we could make all these little Venn diagrams and circles going over each other. So the group mind has what we call constructs in it. And social constructs and psychological constructs. So a social psychological construct, women wear high heels, men don’t, supposedly, right? Then there’s another construct a marriage is one man, one woman, maybe, maybe not. But it is a construct, and you start to feel the friction around these things, right? Like, Well, I understand how this feels like, that’s what you should do. That’s the right thing to do. And that’s because this construct has enough critical mass in the group mind to influence us and regulate us in our thinking and doing now, that is, how we are regulated. And the way the group mind is sustained, is the more I choose as an individual to participate in the constructs of the group mind, the more I feed the group mind, it gets bigger and stronger. And then But then if something happens, like okay, a marriage is one woman and one man and then we have, you know, we have other choices, LGBT plus, you know, yes. Oh, suddenly that group group bind starts to lose a little bit of traction. It doesn’t have the same weight because people are saying no, actually, that’s not How to construct for me, I’m gonna go over here and invest in a different construct. So then I’m so then then that construct gets stronger, that group mind gets stronger, and this other one gets weaker. So if men started wearing high heels, the construct of women wear high heels would

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  20:19

fade away. Yeah, would diminish. Yeah,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  20:23

it would diminish, because it starts to be like, Well, men wear high heels, too. And then it’s like, well, then I guess it doesn’t matter who wears high heels or not, it’s no longer a construct. Mm hmm.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  20:36

How did these constructs develop? How do we as a human were born? Were like born as a blank canvas? Or are we? That’s,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  20:50

for me to answer. Your Ansley? That’s a little too big for me to answer with any kind of certainty. I actually cannot say that. I know that. Yes. I know how individuals integrate constructs

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  21:08

growing up, yes. Okay. Like,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  21:11

you know, you see your, your mom, your dad acting a certain way, well, that’s what you integrate from this from zero to seven, we’re sponges. So we just take it all in and think well, that’s the way it is, you know, and that’s how those are, and then you go to school, and then whatever’s on social media, on whatever is on TV, and whatever you’re saying, You soak it up and bring it in. And this is why the work I’m doing is so important, the flip your switch into thinking for yourself and being at choice and choosing how to curate the constructs that regulate you, you should be at choice, we start out not at choice. But we want to move into a place where we are choosing to be who we are okay, with with awareness and intention. With your

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  22:02

book, flip your switch, tell us about the book and who you hope would pick up this book? Is it targeted for everybody? Or is this someone with a particular interest in a certain area?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  22:15

It’s for absolutely everybody. What I’m doing here is unveiling an understanding for everybody about how their minds work without having to go into psychology, that nobody’s broken, per se, um, that there’s a way to take control of your life and to curate yourself and your life, like your professional development, and your personal evolution, all of that you can have some choice about how you develop it. So it’s for absolutely everybody. I like to say like, it doesn’t matter if you’re bagging groceries or Elon Musk, it’s the same journey. And it’s for everybody, I can only coach so many people. So I spent 10 years boiling this down into something that is really easy access 52 chapters 52 weeks in a year, most chapters are about two pages. Read it ponder, you know, this is not a formula. But once you get a little bit into the book, and you are doing the pondering and your thinking and your your questioning and your your you’re shifting some of your ideas, and you’re you’re allowing yourself to shift and change, synchronicity will kick in, because this book is not a formula that you have to do, or force yourself to do. It’s something you do. And then the natural forces of the universe come to support you in this work, because I’m only unveiling it. I’m not dictating it.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  23:54

So you’re suggesting that this is a way to be, rather than saying this is the way to be?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  24:01

Absolutely. And I’m like, and what I’m doing is I’m not even, I’m not even saying this is I’m saying, look, look at this, what I’m telling you this aspect, like we just talked about social constructs, and group mind, look at this. Think about this. How does this affect you? Where do you see it show up in your life? What is there? What would you like to be there? What would you like not to be there? How will you change this? What do you want to do? So I’m leaving it all open. So by giving the person that ability to be all open about it, if they do some of the clearing work of being of answering some of those how, what were questions that I just gave you. Then things shift for them? Yes.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  24:54

So do we need to start at a place where we have to shift the Colossae or the mindset shifts the mindset? Where do we need to begin as individuals, if we want to embark on this journey of discovering another way to be?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  25:12

So let’s, let’s get into that a little bit. The structure. Yes. Okay. So it’s written in three parts. Part one, the basics of mind, we talk about the mind, the brain and everything in a very layman’s terms, understanding what is or isn’t consciousness and the two forms of consciousness, war and love consciousness, two basic forms of who we are, go into that in a second yet part two, how to shift all the little things you can do to shift. Try this, try that, try this, try that think about this. Think about that. How does it show up in your life? What would you like to have instead? What would you do? Just

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  25:53

pause there for a second, when we talk about things that we want to shift? What are some of the concepts that you suggest we can shift? Like, is it fear, blood water summit? Can we label some of those things? Oh,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  26:10

I mean, it’s endless. It’s how you see yourself your internal narrative how to deal with your sub inner saboteur voice or inner critic, how to understand other people. Because the shift is, is this fundamental shift from war consciousness to love consciousness. So when you start the book, you have no idea what love consciousness is. War consciousness, we know what that is. We’re living it mostly every day. So war consciousness is this desire to capture, contain and control something, someone, even ourselves, our bodies, our bank, our job, our boss, our children, our spouses, something someone we want to capture containing control. That is more consciousness. And that is born from this idea of separateness, you and I are separate, somebody wins, somebody loses somebody’s right, somebody’s wrong, somebody’s up somebody’s downs. So this duality of separation. Okay. That is more consciousness. It is everywhere.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  27:14

Yes, it’s in our singing boys community as well, the way that we speak to our students that we may say to them, that sounds good. That sounds bad. That was right, that was wrong. I don’t think you should do this that way. I think that is the way it should be done.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  27:32

Right? It’s everywhere. It’s everywhere. Yeah. And then there’s this other form of being this other way of being which is love consciousness. That is where you take a step back, where you want to comprehend at a larger level, you have not right or wrong, you have multiple dates, multiple points of data, of what is optimal or constructive versus sub optimal and destructive. And so things are a lot more expanded. Open. In that state. We understand that we are neither independent nor codependent. We are interdependent. We are all parts of this thing on planet Earth called humanity. And we are part of nature. We are a part of systems, we are a part of countries, we are part of households. We have all of these different parts that we are and all of it’s okay. Neither right or wrong, it’s all okay. And from that place of understanding and being we are constructive war consciousness is fundamental reductionist and destructive. Yeah, love lessness is expansive, creative and constructive. And we shift we can be in either state, I suppose,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  29:14

depending on the situation and the circumstance we find ourselves in we may need to go into that war consciousness area, for our own safety and for our own protection, no,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  29:27

yes and no. Yes. Beginning Yes. But then there’s a place where you say, once you embrace fully and you go into, you’ve gone through the processes described in the book, you’ve switched. Your command centre is no longer in calculating, manipulating left brain thinking. Your command centre is over here and your right mind connected to your Damon you Higher knowing. And then from this place, what you would normally call more consciousness, it just becomes logistics, boundaries and priorities, it loses its energy as a form of consciousness. Because you’ve shifted your command centre over here, this is who you are, this is where you’re operating from. And this is why I work with leaders, and CEOs. Because if we can get the CEO over here, it’s a whole new game. It’s a whole new game.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  30:43

Let’s start at the individual for a second theory, there are a couple of words that I went, aha, this really resonates with me. One of them was the inner critic. And then you talked about boundaries. And that’s something that I’m really working hard on fixing in my life at the moment, because I have realised that I’ve come to a point in my life, where there’s been a lot of boundary violations. And I have allowed those to happen, because they can kind of sneak up on you. And so I have become hyper aware of the moment about those boundaries, and really starting to enforce them. So we’ll get to that in a moment. But the inner critic, now this is something that I believe would help the singing voice community because as a creative, our inner critic is on steroids. It’s always switched on. So if someone was reading your book, what would be some of the processes then that would help get to that right side of the brain that would help deal with that inner critic?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  31:59

Well, I’m going to say the inner critic. And I go into this the saboteur voice.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  32:06

Yes. Self Sabotage. Yep. Imposter syndrome, you can kind of get put them all under that one header. Yes,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  32:13

exactly. And so there are several chapters on that the saboteur voice is fundamentally, when it’s sabotaging, coming from a place of war consciousness, okay, because it’s destructive, it’s holding you back. Yes, keeping small, it’s making you think you’re not good enough. And so, because it’s in that petty self place, calculating, manipulating, trying to destroy your growth, that same voice, if it shifts over into love, consciousness, becomes a good friend, who tells you honestly, what you’re good at and what you’re not good at, what you should pursue or not pursue, right? It’s the same energy, it’s the same sort of functionality. It’s simply because it’s living in one side of us in that war, consciousness of calculate, manipulate, capture, contain, control, be afraid, don’t stick your head out, it might get cut off, like all of that going on. And so that’s why it’s important to get to the end of the transformation. And understand that this transformation takes to a place where absolutely everything and anything is either destructive, or constructive. You know, a surgeon can save a life or some criminal can take one with the same blade, medicines, drugs, can destroy your life or save your life.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  34:16

Yes, it’s

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  34:18

who we’re being. While we’re doing whatever it is we’re doing. Everything can go either way. Anything you do, okay. It

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  34:27

sounds like we’re really messed up as human beings. How did we get to this point?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  34:34

Yeah. Well, I mean, we are because if you if you look around, right, there’s a war consciousness is mostly what we see

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  34:46

and what we hear on the news and on social media. It’s everywhere. Exactly.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  34:51

Because it’s coming from the petty self, and we’re being in our petty self or war consciousness as we’re doing whatever we’re doing and And that’s the result. If we shift our hearts and minds to a higher level, into love consciousness and a different way of thinking and being, the results automatically change its cause and consequence.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  35:16

Why is it then that we behave in this manner? Why why do we spend so much time in war consciousness? Other than we may not know any better, but I believe in this is just my opinion, that in life, every action, there’s a payback. I mean, you know, people say, Oh, I was the victim of, but in many scenarios, that victim is well aware that they’re, that that harm is going to happen. And they put themselves in that situation anyway. Because there is a certain payback for them. Whether it’s like, okay, oh, my gosh, you wouldn’t believe what that person just did to me. Or they put their hand in the lion’s den and their hand get gets bitten off, and they go, Oh, I lost my hand to the lion. Okay, so I’m just using those as, like, terrible examples of payback. You know, there’s always that payback. So what is the payback for us as human beings living in that war consciousness?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  36:25

I don’t know exactly. But I mean, it’s kind of like, if you think about, it was like what I was saying earlier, like, if you’re being in a state of war consciousness, what you reap is what you saw, that’s what we’re talking about, right? I don’t think of it necessarily of as payback. It’s just cause and consequence. If I plant a tomato seed, I’m gonna get a tomato plant. Right. So and the reason that that everything is is so mixed up is that we have in our nature, this willingness to settle for the war consciousness, not work to get to the left consciousness, you know, we settle for our petty selves. Yes. A lot of fear. There are societal group mind factors that I’m very interested in, obviously, because again, we talk about how the group mind regulates us. And so we have these beliefs. Like you even we’re using the word payback. And I’m like, No, that’s kind of a war conscious idea and itself. Payback. Yes. It’s Crime and Punishment, whereas I’m talking about cause and consequence. Do you see the difference? Yes, yes. So it’s like it’s built in. So that’s why we have to think so hard about it. And we have to take a book, read two pages, look at it, think about it, go for a walk. Think about it, listen to a podcast, you know, look at the words, maybe read it again, do an exercise. You know, that’s why it’s so much work. It’s because it’s sort of like we are fishing muddy water. And then, you know, I’m saying, there’s mud in the water, more consciousness and everybody’s going, wagging their tails stirring up the mud going, what mud? What are you talking about? What mud? I don’t see any mud? Do you see any mud? No, I don’t see any mud. We’re all we’re all stirring it up all the time. So it’s that stepping back, chill, let it settle. And think breathes. So we can let some of its maybe we can start to notice the difference between clear water and mud. So with

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  39:00

the CEOs and the leaders that you work with, what’s the kind of work that you do with those people,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  39:06

they’re really on a journey. Most of my clients are either social entrepreneurs, or HR executives, or learning and learning and development, a lot of them. So they’re all trying to, you know, help shape a company shape a culture in a positive direction. And so by, on the one hand, coaching them and teaching them, all these constructs that are in the book, taking them through that personal journey of elevation, they get to teach it, Preach it out to whomever and I say preach IP, there’s no religion behind it. It’s just who we are as humans as we elevate and understanding that, by them modelling Model, they’re showing what’s possible. And, and so they there, they really get a kick out of it.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  40:07

What kinds of results are they getting with their teams, a lot

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  40:11

of really interesting things happen in all different ways, you know, they get a lot more understanding of who they’re dealing with friction goes way down between people, creativity goes way up, innovation goes way up, product development will go way up, because that’s all the creative side of things, connectivity will kick in, they’ll have, they’ll do more with less, they’ll have I don’t know, just a lot of the very simple stuff people will will be ill less people are willing to step up more. When there’s a crises, they identify more with the company. They have what I call an emotional salary, where as most people going to their jobs don’t have an emotional salaries. But but, you know, teams working under these kinds of CEOs and HR, directors and leaders will start to realise that they have an emotional salary, because they’ll start to get it from just those micro shifts in culture and behaviour that are happening around them. Yep.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  41:19

So as individuals, what’s a couple of basic principles that we can apply, like to elevate our happiness, our impact, or influence?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  41:30

Okay, I will go to like the beginning of the book, the basics, mind, there are some basic myths, think of it like it’s your mental emotional landscape, you got to kind of clear it out, look at what’s there and pull some of the weeds, I’m going to pull a couple of weeds. Big one, massive one, holding you back, the happiness formula lie. The happiness formula, which is a lie, is that once I get the right house, the right spouse, the right job, the right dress size, the right this the right that, I just get that gig get the right, you know, the right place, or I get that job, or I just hit that many followers, then I will have happiness, I will be happy. Now that for Island,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  42:28

I agree it is a massive myth.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  42:32

Happiness is a state of being it is not calculate double. And so that is that left brain kind of I’m going to adjust it somehow I can quantify by adding up all these things to equal happiness never worked for anybody never will. And yet, we’re so hooked on it. It is a massive construct of the group mind, planet wide. That gets you stuck and keeps you down. It is a lie.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  43:16

It’s a lie. It’s like getting on a treadmill and you can’t get off because you’re always looking for the next. I learned that a few quite a few years ago. Yep. And you’re usually looking for external things to make you happy. They’re not internal. Yeah,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  43:33

yeah. Although I mean, we can also do it with the internal redesign, you can do it to your mind too, which is kind of bad, too. We, we need to do a little bit of reshaping in the mental emotional landscape. But also going around in your mental emotional landscape thinking that it has to be perfect is also like, you cannot apply the formula to your mind either. You have to notice the reality of your mind and be with it and be okay with it. And just, you know what, this is who I am. And this is where I am. And these are the actual thoughts I’m having. Do I want to have other thoughts? Yeah, these are not really good ones. What could I have instead? What would work? I mean, literally redesigning the thought patterns around what you’re doing? Do we?

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  44:21

Do we all have the ability to facilitate this change? Can we all make this change? Or are there certain personality types are traits like narcissists or people who have had some kind of brain injury? That’s

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  44:37

beyond my field? I do know that every pretty much every normal person that I’ve ever met, has been able to do that. I know certain narcissists that have been my clients that have made leaps and bounds. I don’t know if those people would have done it on their own. Yes,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  44:56

yes. You can’t prove that. Yes. Yeah.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  44:59

I mean, I put the screws to them. So that’s, you know, they paid me for it. They wanted it. Yeah, no, no, I but I don’t know and brain injuries, I don’t know,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  45:14

what’s one way that we can unlock our confidence. And, and I love that you talk about influence let’s let’s talk about confidence and influence for a second, how can we shift those? What are the steps that we can take to shift those.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  45:31

In part one I talked about the different personas, and we have a deep part of ourselves that we need to explore and nourish. That’s where confidence comes from. It’s deep within us. It’s when we’re loyal to who we are at our core, when we reach for calling, and we stopped calculating about whether or not we should do something, but we just know. And so the whole development is going to give every everybody who does it a an incremental shift towards the confidence, because it’s all about going inside. And being who you are, naturally. The more you do that, the more you are confident, because you’re not hanging your hat on something out here, your head is on your own head, you’re keeping it to yourself, you’re taking it to a place where you are, you know, and once you’re in that state, and we all more or less can get there, the book is the whole how to get there. The more you do that, the more you’re confident. The more you do that, the more you’re happy at ease, you have less fear. I’m actually starting a podcast of my my own. And the first episode is resiliency and leadership. And it’s with two of my clients. And we go through a lot of the stuff that you go through as my client and an understanding that you become naturally resilient, you can move with ease and confidence. Because you’ve let go of looking for validation on the outside, you, you become self validating, it’s but it’s a process. And that’s you know, I mean, some of the simple things is take care of yourself. Self Care, meditate, meditation, walks in the woods, mindfulness, mindfulness, think, also contemplate. Contemplate your there’s meditation where you don’t think. And then there’s Hey, how about this, think about something not in a left brain calculating way but open it up? What matters?

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  47:56

daydreaming?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  47:58

Yes, ask yourself some big fuzzy questions. See what comes up? Mm hmm.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  48:05

Some of this stuff, people may say, Wow, this is really woowoo. But you are clearly a highly intelligent person, you know, your stuff. I acknowledge all of that. Have you ever been silenced or people like, tried to quiet new down, or they’ve they’ve felt this is too much.

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  48:31

Not yet too much. I get snarky remarks on social media. Just talking about love consciousness is enough to get snarky hateful remarks. Just because people in war consciousness who believe that that’s the only way to be and are fully invested in their defensiveness and aggression. They’re very disturbed by somebody going around talking about love consciousness, and that we can elevate humans. So, so far, no biggies?

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  49:12

Yep. Yes, yes. What’s your vision for humanity? How would you like to visualise the world in the future?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  49:22

I see. And this is actually something I actually do for certain people. I foresee whole industries that are screaming to be born. Everything that centres around regeneration, regeneration being like the centre word there, regenerative farming, regenerative medicine, regenerative waste management, regenerative manufacturing, and the list goes on, there will be a massive shift in economic model. Right now, historically, we have inherited with inherited with the patriarchy, you know, because it’s a gradual, historic journey, we have a pyramid system that you know, where the planet is at the bottom where it’s getting trashed, we’re using an extracting, it’s an extraction model, where we extract from the bottom and bring it up to the top, so that people at the top can renew their, their their yachts every couple of years, or whatever they’re doing with loads and loads of money. And then those at the bottom don’t have enough. But they give their blood sweat and tears to two organisations that extract their the value they add, gets monetized and goes up to the top. And this model will eventually have to implode. So as I’m working with social entrepreneurs, and all of these people, what we’re trying to do and establish is other business models and economic structures. So that we can have a, like a safety net, an economic safety net that allows when that structure disintegrates, I would say preferably over just collapsing, that we will have constellation fashion, a network of partner ship, model, love conscious models of Business and Economics, where which is not based on extraction or exploitation of planet and other people, or countries. But it’s based on cooperation, love, consciousness, creativity, and synergy where we get added value, where, by coming together, there’s added values. And it’s this comp, which sort of compiles because it’s all of these clusters that work together. And there are also internal business models that some of us are working on, as well as to how to internally make a company profitable in this in this cluster fashion, because this is the thing, people get really scared that they’re going to lose the profitability, because they’re thinking from their petty self, what’s in it for me, in that war consciousness, you and I are separate, somebody’s got to win, somebody’s got to lose. And that’s what’s happening in the extraction model. Now, if we step out of that, for a minute, we noticed that the value created is what makes profit. If you’re creating a product or a service that gives value to people, they’re going to transact and give you money. And that transaction will create profit, that is a given in business, otherwise, you revive Yes. And so I have to debunk that all the time with business people. Because that’s their number one fear that comes up immediately. If I change my business model, I’m not gonna make money, I’m gonna die. I make no, you continue to create value instead of extracting value from somebody else’s work.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  53:35

Hmm, interesting. So interesting. So what do you believe your legacy will be?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  53:41

I hope, my legacy will be that everybody will walk around talking about love and care and love consciousness and war consciousness, and social constructs, and group mind. And all of a lot of these concepts or concepts that I’ve put together. And that that will one day be common language,

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  54:01

because they’re all new languages. They’re all new words at the moment. Is there anything else that you wanted to add to this interview that we may have not spoken about?

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  54:12

Yeah, in visualising the future, I want to give you an image, okay. of one of the things that is happening here and now with you and me. Right now think of look at visualise the planet Earth, like the globe. All right. And there are these golden like these little fireflies, these little lights here and there. Okay, these little golden dots here and there. And then between the golden dots that are kind of scattered all over the planet. There’s one here in Boston and there’s one there in Australia and there’s a line between and they You cross, and they start to form this web. And this is like a web of light. This web of life that people like you are forming podcasts like this are creating this web of light. And I believe that this is a wonderful thing that we’re doing all of these little Lightworkers all over the planet, creating this little, this delicate, seemingly delicate web of light, and that it is going to contribute massively, to getting to where what I call pure, positive, critical mass, in how we see the world and what we’re doing in it, and how we come to understand things like love consciousness, or you can call it something else, it doesn’t matter. A rose is a rose by any other name, and that we elevate together.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  56:12

Wow, that’s incredible. That’s incredible. Well, where can people find your book? We will share the links in the show notes. But is the book on Amazon? Or where can they find the book? Yeah,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  56:25

the book is on Amazon. Flip your switch A User’s Guide to A Whole New Mind. Dr. Terry Vadar. And if you’re interested in coaching, you can find me at White Lily coaching.com. You can find me on Insta, Dr. Terry Bader one. You can find me on LinkedIn, Dr. Terry Vadar. And I now have also love conscious human.com, which is a work in progress. But it’s also where I’m trying to find ways to consolidate and bring together different support educational support for people who want to go on to love conscious human path and elevate amazing.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  57:14

Well, I would love to thank you for your time, appreciate the work that you’re doing. It is a whole new world is opening up a whole new world. I think I’m going to have to listen back to this a few times to totally absorb everything that you’ve spoken about. There was so much information in such a short amount of time, but I appreciate you. I appreciate that you’ve been here spent the time with me. And wish you all the very best. Dr. Terry,

 

Dr. Teri Baydar  57:49

thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.

 

Dr Marisa Lee Naismith  57:51

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